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the summer of 2006, a group of terrorists with links to al-qaeda planned to board a bunch of different planes at heathrow in london. to be flying from there to the united states and the way these guys were going to bomb the planes was by bringing soda bottles on board those planes that looked like they contained just soda or water, but in fact, they contained hydrogen peroxide and the other components needed to make bombs. the heathrow guys got caught before they did it, but it is now thanks to them that we have to buy humiliatingly tiny toiletries like this hair goo, right? it's not just security in this case. it's for a reason. hydrogen based bombs. the london bombings of 2005, those were al-qaeda linked terrorists and those were hydrogen peroxide based bombs. those killed 52 people. four years later, there was an american copy cat. in 2009, a guy tried to buy a bunch of hydrogen peroxide from beauty stores near aurora, colorado. it led to the arrest of this guy. he was going to do it in new york instead. on the subway. again, his plan was hydrogen peroxide. they're associated with d
the summer of 2006, a group of terrorists with links to al-qaeda planned to board a bunch of different planes at heathrow in london. to be flying from there to the united states and the way these guys were going to bomb the planes was by bringing soda bottles on board those planes that looked like they contained just soda or water, but in fact, they contained hydrogen peroxide and the other components needed to make bombs. the heathrow guys got caught before they did it, but it is now thanks to...
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. >>> first an arrest in canada, where two suspects are accused of planning a terror plot with al qaeda assistants. we'll tell you how investigators say they prevented an attack. >>> raising the middle for cigarettes. why critics say bad idea. >>> the suspect in the boston marathon bombings admitted to investigators, he and his brother were motivated by religion but says they were not in contact with overseas terror groups. dzhokhar tsarnaev has been charged with making weapons of mass destruction, making a court appearance from his hospital room, bed ridden, he was described as cooperative, forced to write his answers, yes or no. all this as boston fell into silence at 2:50 p.m. to remember the 180 injured and three killed a week ago. joining frus boston, nbc news capitol hill correspondent luke russert. lou, where do we stand on this investigation this morning? >> reporter: good morning, bill. some fascinating developments over the last days of this suspect. you just mentioned right there he has become cooperative with investigators. he is still injured in the throat and tongue area.
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qaeda in a magazine that al qaeda tried to use to recruit homegrown extremists. the problem is that that technology has really widespread. it is also been talked about by domestic extremist groups. so although it is predominantly used by al qaeda associated overseas, we really can't draw that conclusion now. >> one of the most fascinating part of the story is usually when there is a big terrorism event, a group or people come forward and claim responsibility so the fact that there's been silence on this is a little bit perplexing. give us details on why they would or wouldn't do that? >> as a general matter, when al qaeda has been associated with an attack and it's an international terrorism group, that overseas group has taken credit. we haven't seen that. and my estimation is every day that passes that we don't see a claim from overseas, it makes it more and more likely that it's a domestic group. quite often domestic groups have not taken credit for it because taking credit for it would make them a much higher profile target for the fbi to go and find them. >>
qaeda in a magazine that al qaeda tried to use to recruit homegrown extremists. the problem is that that technology has really widespread. it is also been talked about by domestic extremist groups. so although it is predominantly used by al qaeda associated overseas, we really can't draw that conclusion now. >> one of the most fascinating part of the story is usually when there is a big terrorism event, a group or people come forward and claim responsibility so the fact that there's been...
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they get al qaeda. >> yeah. >> and what happens is al qaeda has this process, this gentle persuasion where they believe that they are really -- they convince themselves. i mean, it's not brainwash. they convince themselves. once they start inculcating them, you know, khalid shaikh mohammed said it, that the most important thing to be a member of al qaeda was not whether you could speak a foreign language, military training, your ability to shoot a gun, or make a bomb. the most important thing was your willingness for self-sacrifice. that's how you get in. and that's what they've built that cult on. now, in the last few years, it's diminished with -- diminished with -- because we diminished al qaeda and bin laden. so it's diminished but it's not gone away. >> let me go back to roger cressi because we don't want to generalize on here. i like to find patterns. it's easier if you can figure out what is going on and everything being phenomenal and chaotic, you'd like to think -- when people are willing to kill people by the numbers, lots of people, it's usually a deep religious thing, lik
they get al qaeda. >> yeah. >> and what happens is al qaeda has this process, this gentle persuasion where they believe that they are really -- they convince themselves. i mean, it's not brainwash. they convince themselves. once they start inculcating them, you know, khalid shaikh mohammed said it, that the most important thing to be a member of al qaeda was not whether you could speak a foreign language, military training, your ability to shoot a gun, or make a bomb. the most...
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the administration remains squarely focused on the threat posed by al qaeda and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. joining us is white house correspondent for "the new republic" julia faffi. we know you've written about this for some time. and a lot of folks do not understand the dynamics between the u.s. and russia at present. but really more specifically, russia and chechnya. as we talk about what has happened in and around the chechnyian separatist movement it bears mentioning and "u.s.a. today" mentions this that the russian army played a role in radicalizing chechen separatist movements, tell us a little of the history between these two states. >> in the history how recent this is, in the late 18th century, the russian empire invaded the region and this radicalized it. later, joseph stalin drew the borders in such a way that made an ethnic hodge-podge of the region. he suppressed a chechen rebellion by deporting the entire chechen population to central asia, a deeply radicalizing experience, as much as a third or a half of the chechen population died there. in the '90s and early 20
the administration remains squarely focused on the threat posed by al qaeda and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. joining us is white house correspondent for "the new republic" julia faffi. we know you've written about this for some time. and a lot of folks do not understand the dynamics between the u.s. and russia at present. but really more specifically, russia and chechnya. as we talk about what has happened in and around the chechnyian separatist movement it bears mentioning and...
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it's difficult for al qaeda to launch an attack from overseas. they are going to come from people off the radar screen which means it's harder to find out who they are that requires more intensive investigation and requires local police to be more involved and perhaps the fbi should consider adjusting its regulation to keep a file on someone open. did they tell the boston police about this? was there any way -- any cast o capacity to follow-up on the case when information became available on the older brother? there has to be less stovepiping and take into account the new nature of the war. >> there are reports today, for example, surfacing to this whole point about what we know and what we don't know. the fbi was contacted multiple times about tamerlan tsarnaev. our own pete williams says the fbi tells him they were contacted just once in 2011. they checked him out. they didn't find anything. what have you been able to find out about that when 10you were briefed? >> we are getting conflicting reports. on the senate side they were told by deputy
it's difficult for al qaeda to launch an attack from overseas. they are going to come from people off the radar screen which means it's harder to find out who they are that requires more intensive investigation and requires local police to be more involved and perhaps the fbi should consider adjusting its regulation to keep a file on someone open. did they tell the boston police about this? was there any way -- any cast o capacity to follow-up on the case when information became available on...
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so that means chechens went abroad and joined al qaeda-type groups. and also funds and ideology came into the chechen uprising and that's when they began their cam page of suicide bombings. they didn't ever have this in their past. chechens don't follow any of these extremist movements except for the rebel movement. and i think that possibly in his trip to dagestan, the older one was introduced extremist thoughts and generalized view of the narrative for these groups is muslims are under attack all over the world, we have to strike western powers. and we did see on his website that tamerlan was feeling great sympathy for the syrians who also are facing a heavy-handed fist right now in their uprising. >> dan, we read today in the "wall street journal" tamerlan tsarnaev nearly wore out his welcome at a local mosque in cambridge. he reportedly got angry over the celebration of martin luther king day. he even got angry at a butcher who was selling thanksgiving turkeys. what does that say to you about his mindset? >> well, it's clear looking at it from an
so that means chechens went abroad and joined al qaeda-type groups. and also funds and ideology came into the chechen uprising and that's when they began their cam page of suicide bombings. they didn't ever have this in their past. chechens don't follow any of these extremist movements except for the rebel movement. and i think that possibly in his trip to dagestan, the older one was introduced extremist thoughts and generalized view of the narrative for these groups is muslims are under attack...
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and so much of our effort has been focused on al qaeda related or al qaeda dictated or driven attacks. what we've seen so far, there is more to come out. these two gentlemen may have been radicalized but there are no direct lirngs to al qaeda so we'll step back and look at it from a muslim extremist perspective, are there other areas, other reasonings such as asia and chechnya, that we'll need to pay more attention to. >> so roger, quickly does that become an intelligence issue? is that an intelligence gathering issue? >> it is an intelligence issue but also a community issue. of the many plots disrupted around the united states, many were disrupted because of a tip-off from the local community to law enforcement. so we have focused so much on specific ethnic groups since 9/11 in terms of potential threats. maybe we need to open the aperture a little bit. not because the communities pose a threat to the united states but because there are individuals we need to pay attention to. >> when you talk about other groups, not al qaeda but other overseas groups that you might want to investig
and so much of our effort has been focused on al qaeda related or al qaeda dictated or driven attacks. what we've seen so far, there is more to come out. these two gentlemen may have been radicalized but there are no direct lirngs to al qaeda so we'll step back and look at it from a muslim extremist perspective, are there other areas, other reasonings such as asia and chechnya, that we'll need to pay more attention to. >> so roger, quickly does that become an intelligence issue? is that...
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this was not like an al qaeda operation. which would involve suicide bombers, aimed at high-priority targets and there's a statement that they're trying to make. this is still a lot different from those type of attacks. >> and because it's different and also there are two, there are two suspects here. one is deceased. and one seems to have to have have been based on the evidence we've seen so far, been more radical in terms of having more of a jihadist mentality. the 19-year-old, the one who is still alive, dzhokhar tsarnaev, seems to have been less, i think ideologic ideological, if you will. based on the evidence that we have. and i wonder, frank, there's this idea of mercy in american society. and the "boston herald" in today's paper writes we know he's 19 years old, we don't think he has a criminal record. there are a lot of people out there who seem to have warm, positive things to say about him. to predict he'll get a life sentence is not unreasonable. there are democrats who have said, republicans and democrats who ha
this was not like an al qaeda operation. which would involve suicide bombers, aimed at high-priority targets and there's a statement that they're trying to make. this is still a lot different from those type of attacks. >> and because it's different and also there are two, there are two suspects here. one is deceased. and one seems to have to have have been based on the evidence we've seen so far, been more radical in terms of having more of a jihadist mentality. the 19-year-old, the one...
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of course it has nothing to do with islam, it's an al qaeda terrorist group. but they use religious, they distort it, and they make their killers. if he goes there for six months, he's probably communicating back with his handlers, and there's still a period of interaction, that ice probably making the bombs -- >> we should let people know we're seeing military assault vehicles and they seem to be well armed. they're driving in the area of cambridge where we believe there will be some sort of a controlled explosion because a device they found. i believe it was described as a pressure cooker type of device. which was used certainly in at least one of the boston marathon bombings. that first explosion they believe was a pressure cooker device. my apologies for interrupting. >> they're going to disrupt that device, they're going to use the bomb technicians from fbi or the massachusetts state police, they're going to disrupt it. atf has bomb technicians there as well. they've been i'm sure brainstorming it all morning. what they'll do is set a disrupter on it or s
of course it has nothing to do with islam, it's an al qaeda terrorist group. but they use religious, they distort it, and they make their killers. if he goes there for six months, he's probably communicating back with his handlers, and there's still a period of interaction, that ice probably making the bombs -- >> we should let people know we're seeing military assault vehicles and they seem to be well armed. they're driving in the area of cambridge where we believe there will be some...
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this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic extremists groups. >> it does seem that like jose padilla there might have been anger there about chechnya and using that as a rationale for joining jihady movements. having said that. one of the things that gets pointed out continuously is that if you are chechen, your beef is with russia and not the united states. >> yes but to a point. remember, chris, it's not just the chechnya conflict that was involved here. dagestan is really the far more important place to look. let's keep chechnya to the side. it's dagestan where he went. he probably was not just visiting
this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic...
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i agree with the analysis that being part of al qaeda creates an eligibility. i don't think being part of general hatred of the united states is nearly enough. where i slightly disagree, there's a supreme court decision, the one you were referring to, chris, involving the nazis. one of whom was a u.s. citizen. the crimes were perpetrated to be for u.s. soil. bottom line, this is not a case for enemy combatants, and there so many horrible crimes committed. if we start throwing the constitution out, we're going to lose the real war for our values. >> let's talk about the issue a lot of people have been talking about. not everybody, but some. miranda rights. we've watched enough detective shows no know, police shows, they give miranda rights almost like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. it's done. why do you think that's an issue? now we just got the word as we went on the air tonight the defendant here, the suspect, i guess he's a defendant now, has been given his miranda rights. >> this is truly something of an urban legend. people like to watch shows where a crimin
i agree with the analysis that being part of al qaeda creates an eligibility. i don't think being part of general hatred of the united states is nearly enough. where i slightly disagree, there's a supreme court decision, the one you were referring to, chris, involving the nazis. one of whom was a u.s. citizen. the crimes were perpetrated to be for u.s. soil. bottom line, this is not a case for enemy combatants, and there so many horrible crimes committed. if we start throwing the constitution...
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the al qaeda magazine is not the only place you can get a specific instruction manual about explosives. probably to the chagrin of our corporate overlords or whoever monitors our online networks here at 30 rock it only took me five minutes of googling to find specific instructions on making explosives are all over. not just discussions about it or ideological debates, people exhorting other people to do it but actual step by step instructions. when i was looking today for whatever reason white supremacists groups seemed to have some of the most quickly accessible step by steps online for bidding all sorts of bombs. this goes through not only how to make pipe bombs but common mistakes for makers of pipe bombs that might result in you blowing yourself up and how you can avoid those common mistakes. they talk about how to make pipe bombs from nonmetallic materials to try to sneak them through metal detectors. very specific information. i have no idea if it's true information. i don't know how to make bombs. but those specific instructions, the step by step instructions that could make a p
the al qaeda magazine is not the only place you can get a specific instruction manual about explosives. probably to the chagrin of our corporate overlords or whoever monitors our online networks here at 30 rock it only took me five minutes of googling to find specific instructions on making explosives are all over. not just discussions about it or ideological debates, people exhorting other people to do it but actual step by step instructions. when i was looking today for whatever reason white...
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you saw bin laden and members of al qaeda voice support for what was going on in chechnya because it is a muslim region, and over type, we've seen a greater integration of fighters. some of whom went to chechnya to fight on behalf of the separative movement and on behalf of the broad jihad. now what you see in the second phase of chechnya is objective by some separatives to create a pan islamic presence throughout central asia. we're dealing with a phenomenon that's changed over time. up till now, we've got to be careful on speculation, this was not an american fight. there was nothing that went on there that was of a foreign policy priority of the united states. particularly in the world of counterterrorism. if in fact, ties can be confirmed, this changed things significantly. >> what kind of precedent is there in your mind for this kind of attack where we're seeing tactics of somewhat conventional terrorist hit, followed up by what is essentially criminals fleeing and car jacking and tangling with police? is that a format that we've seen in other terrorist incidents? >> in the afte
you saw bin laden and members of al qaeda voice support for what was going on in chechnya because it is a muslim region, and over type, we've seen a greater integration of fighters. some of whom went to chechnya to fight on behalf of the separative movement and on behalf of the broad jihad. now what you see in the second phase of chechnya is objective by some separatives to create a pan islamic presence throughout central asia. we're dealing with a phenomenon that's changed over time. up till...
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so there's long-standing connections between al qaeda, osama bin laden, his ideology of al qaeda and a large segment of the chechnya rebel movement. and that's been something that's been known for years. so perhaps this shouldn't come as that big of a surprise to, to a lot of people. >> and of course, michael, tamerlan tsarnaev was the one that went overseas and who knows what happened in that six-month period. his younger brother is of course the one that is still alive. and it remains to be seen whether, if there was radicalization, if that took place, who the catalyst was for the younger brother, whether or not there is you know, a support system, a cell for them in the united states. and whether there are accomplices to all of that. >> exactly. a couple of those points. remember, tamerlan is also the one who had an ied strapped around his body this morning when he was found, when he was found dead. that's the indication he fits the mold of the classic suicide bomber. once again, i would county that as another important clue in pointing out where this was all coming from. you know
so there's long-standing connections between al qaeda, osama bin laden, his ideology of al qaeda and a large segment of the chechnya rebel movement. and that's been something that's been known for years. so perhaps this shouldn't come as that big of a surprise to, to a lot of people. >> and of course, michael, tamerlan tsarnaev was the one that went overseas and who knows what happened in that six-month period. his younger brother is of course the one that is still alive. and it remains...
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is there an al qaeda or other splinter group connection? what did his brother do when he went back to russia, at least to russia? we know he arrived at an airport outside moscow. don't know where he went after that. his father is still -- returned to russia and was angry when called -- angry and grieving when called by reporters today, russian reporters, because -- had no knowledge of what his sons were doing, but was angry and thinking they had been hunted down as targets of some sort of conspiracy because he simply is not aware of any of these facts. we know president vladimir putin has been in touch with the u.s., has issued a message of condolence to president obama. there's been a national security meeting. the white house says previously scheduled. but there was a gathering of all the top officials around 11:15 this morning. our google hangout plus with secretary kerry was postponed at the last minute today for obvious reasons. secretary kerry is leaving for istanbul for a meeting with president erdogan as he continues with his missio
is there an al qaeda or other splinter group connection? what did his brother do when he went back to russia, at least to russia? we know he arrived at an airport outside moscow. don't know where he went after that. his father is still -- returned to russia and was angry when called -- angry and grieving when called by reporters today, russian reporters, because -- had no knowledge of what his sons were doing, but was angry and thinking they had been hunted down as targets of some sort of...
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among them, al qaeda. the next question, though, is if he should be treated as a standard criminal defendant, or if some of the rights should be different given the accusations of terror against this man, dzhokhar tsarnaev. and that relates to in miranda question that you've been talking about today. we're trying to get a better understanding of how it's impacted by what we're learning, which is the fact that he can't communicate right now because of injuries to his throat. and at this point, it's really unclear exactly what impact that hasmz it appears that after he is first able to communicate, at least the justice department would argue, they can speak to him before giving him his miranda rights. >> oh, peter alexander, thank you for clearing that up from there. appreciate it. chuck hagel is addressing concerns during his first trip to israel. top questions on the political radar concern whether the two suspects in the attacks, especially the older brother tamerlan, were inspired by militant groups over
among them, al qaeda. the next question, though, is if he should be treated as a standard criminal defendant, or if some of the rights should be different given the accusations of terror against this man, dzhokhar tsarnaev. and that relates to in miranda question that you've been talking about today. we're trying to get a better understanding of how it's impacted by what we're learning, which is the fact that he can't communicate right now because of injuries to his throat. and at this point,...
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salon writes, the ideology of al qaeda, which seems to be the primary influence in the tsarnaev plot can be seen as a conspiracy theory itself, which places the united states at the center of all evil knit world, even the extermination campaigns of the third reich were essentially built on a conspiracy theory, but a byproduct of the boston bombing has been to bolters another dangerous theory -- the idea that terrorism comes not from deranged radicalized individuals and groups, but instead is rooted in the islamic faith. >> i think we have to consider that we'll have to cut off muslim students for coming to this country, so we can look at what we've got and decide whether some of the people here should be sent back home or sent to prison. >> that was fox's bob beckel on monday floating an idea he double-downed on yesterday. >> if the fbi cannot deal with this fellow on boston with all they had, it seems to me we ought to let them clear up the problems with the current muslim population here and then let students come back in. >> while some of his fox colleagues disagreed with the sugg
salon writes, the ideology of al qaeda, which seems to be the primary influence in the tsarnaev plot can be seen as a conspiracy theory itself, which places the united states at the center of all evil knit world, even the extermination campaigns of the third reich were essentially built on a conspiracy theory, but a byproduct of the boston bombing has been to bolters another dangerous theory -- the idea that terrorism comes not from deranged radicalized individuals and groups, but instead is...
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at first they thought it was home grown and later a tie to al qaeda. that's one question we have to look at right now. >> evan kohlmann, i appreciate your insight on this. i want to bring in richard engel. we don't talk about the chechen conflict much. it's not our fight. share some of what you know about this region. >> i think i can verify some of what evan has been talking about. i have been on the phone with counterterrorism officials today. they told me they are in a bit of a wait and see mode that they don't know who these people are precisely. i mean, we know their names. but what motivated them and, specifically, did they or do they belong to any organized terrorist group? the suspicion, however, is that they may be linked to that group that evan was just talking about. i know counterterrorism officials are looking at this. they are operating with the assumption that maybe they are linked to this group or some faction of this group. they are operating under the assumption that the older suspect that you mentioned may have been the leader of thi
at first they thought it was home grown and later a tie to al qaeda. that's one question we have to look at right now. >> evan kohlmann, i appreciate your insight on this. i want to bring in richard engel. we don't talk about the chechen conflict much. it's not our fight. share some of what you know about this region. >> i think i can verify some of what evan has been talking about. i have been on the phone with counterterrorism officials today. they told me they are in a bit of a...
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that they got the recipe for the bomb from the internet, specifically the al qaeda magazine called "inspire" which has published a couple of articles on how to build bombs in pressure cookers. which is what the fbi says the two boston bombs were and a third bomb found at the scene of the watertown shooting. and as for their motive, he says that they were both, they both become deeply religious, they were opposed to the u.s. operations in iraq and, iran, iraq and afghanistan. and that that was the reason they decided to do this. which he said they came up with on their own. >> and pete, we've seen now more images, some dramatic images are coming in from that night of the shootout, the video of what actually transpired that night. it was pretty remarkable. the coordination among state, local and federal officials as well. and some of the images seem to show -- more precisely there as you can see, what was going down between the suspects and the authorities. >> well frankly, andrea, these pictures raise some questions in our mind. because we've got to figure out who those two figures are that
that they got the recipe for the bomb from the internet, specifically the al qaeda magazine called "inspire" which has published a couple of articles on how to build bombs in pressure cookers. which is what the fbi says the two boston bombs were and a third bomb found at the scene of the watertown shooting. and as for their motive, he says that they were both, they both become deeply religious, they were opposed to the u.s. operations in iraq and, iran, iraq and afghanistan. and that...
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al qaeda has designed this thing to have this spider web around the world. and something changes in people's lives, we can go back to the 9/11 highjackers, something can change as well. >> should be carefully here joining any definitive connection between these guys and al qaeda right now, correct? >> i think that's true, we don't have the facts but we do know that he went away and came back and he changed his appearance and planted the bombs and then he became a suicide bomber. there's a lot of facts that add up that respect even supposition. it is going to change out, something changed in his life, like clint was describing, something big changed, he came back, all of a sudden, bombs planted in a suicide vest that's certainly one of the ideals of al qaeda. i agree the facts remain to be seen but a pretty radical change. >> clint what do we know about the six months that the 26-year-old, that the older brother that six months he was in russia? do we know a great deal about what he was doing there? >> that's what we are trying to get a handle on, we know the
al qaeda has designed this thing to have this spider web around the world. and something changes in people's lives, we can go back to the 9/11 highjackers, something can change as well. >> should be carefully here joining any definitive connection between these guys and al qaeda right now, correct? >> i think that's true, we don't have the facts but we do know that he went away and came back and he changed his appearance and planted the bombs and then he became a suicide bomber....
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. >> one of the things we learned about the pressure cooker bomb is that al-qaeda put directions for building one on its most recent edition of inspire magazine. they can also be found on the internet, but neither al-qaeda or any other organization has claimed responsibility. would that lead you to believe that is a lone wolf or disgruntled domestic suspect as opposed to an international terrorist? >> i think you have to keep all options open. it could be a hybrid. take for example in 2011, a former u.s. soldier was arrested in the area of ft. hood texas, the same area where major nadal hasan committed that terrible act on the military base. this young soldier was arrested because he was assembling two pressure cooker type devices that he was going to target on a u.s. military. the way he was arrested, the same gun store where major hasan bought one of his guns, noticed a large sale of black powder to this young man. they told the authorities, the authorities conducted a search and found these two bombs he was building at the same time. he had been somewhat radicalized and had a copy
. >> one of the things we learned about the pressure cooker bomb is that al-qaeda put directions for building one on its most recent edition of inspire magazine. they can also be found on the internet, but neither al-qaeda or any other organization has claimed responsibility. would that lead you to believe that is a lone wolf or disgruntled domestic suspect as opposed to an international terrorist? >> i think you have to keep all options open. it could be a hybrid. take for example...
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that doesn't tell you if it's anti-government and a domestic group and inspired by al qaeda, but as time goes on, a lack of a plan of responsibility from overseas, you do have to look more within the united states. >> in your experience, what should we expect today. this is the second 24 hours that it's less about dealing with enhanced security or concerns about where could something happen next and more about the investigation. how much progress do you expect? >> difficult to say. what they are hoping for is a break on the pictures of the pieces of the bomb that are being assembled here. they will now fan out and try to figure out where everything was bought. it may be several days before they have a good idea of who did this. you may not see anything dramatic today. >> our team, appreciate it. thank you both. >> here next, we have lots to talk about on boston and guns. white house soup of the day, you will be happy with this one. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ i've got the power people lose 5x more weight following the weight watchers approach than trying on their own. you can too. ♪ â
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al qaeda's, you know, leadership has been significantly degraded. so what you have is these sort of al qaeda inspired events happening all over. >> richard haas -- >> you say something about what we've learned in new york about how we reduce the chances that young men get radicalized, get inspired, or if they do how do we get the community leadership to turn them in, to basically work with you rather than shield them? >> we have an awful lot of community support here. i think it's just not logical to think that the community is going to know about young men becoming radicalized. they know that they're being watched. they know they're being watched by their own community. so what we see is very, very small groups or individuals who are -- who are doing this. they're not advertising it. now, you know, in retrospect you can say, well, he started to act strangely or he did a series of things. but prior to an event happening, it's very difficult to identify. but in terms of community support, we think we have significant community support. from -- certai
al qaeda's, you know, leadership has been significantly degraded. so what you have is these sort of al qaeda inspired events happening all over. >> richard haas -- >> you say something about what we've learned in new york about how we reduce the chances that young men get radicalized, get inspired, or if they do how do we get the community leadership to turn them in, to basically work with you rather than shield them? >> we have an awful lot of community support here. i think...
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qaeda's affiliate in yemen. the wife of the dead bombing suspect said it was absolute shock that her husband was involved. >>> the suspect's mother who refuses to believe her sons had anything to do with last monday's bombing also told cnn "their protector is god who is allah, the only one, allah, okay? if they're going to kill him, i don't care. my oldest one has been killed and i don't care. i don't care if my youngest one is going to be killed today. i want the world to hear this. and i don't care if i'm going to get killed too, okay? and i will say allahu akbar, that is what i'm going to say. >>> janet napolitano was grilled over her department's knowledge of the older brother's overseas travel, an issue now factoring into the debate over immigration reform. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and if you weren't, the reason? >> yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> is it true his i
qaeda's affiliate in yemen. the wife of the dead bombing suspect said it was absolute shock that her husband was involved. >>> the suspect's mother who refuses to believe her sons had anything to do with last monday's bombing also told cnn "their protector is god who is allah, the only one, allah, okay? if they're going to kill him, i don't care. my oldest one has been killed and i don't care. i don't care if my youngest one is going to be killed today. i want the world to hear...
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and al qaeda militants and yemen and elsewhere. and really at the heart of it is the fact that one of obama's enduring legacies when it comes to foreign policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the government from people who should be stepping up and saying, wait a minute, we can't kill u.s. citizens without due process? >> right, i think there's no question that if john mccain had won the election in 2008 or mitt romney had won it in 2012 that liberals would be screaming about this stuff and saying, you know, that -- there would be this thing, war crimes, we should do impeachment and the reality is that i think a lot of people -- and i think this is sincere. a lot of people so fed up with the iraq war, perceived as the sort of crimes of the bush adm
and al qaeda militants and yemen and elsewhere. and really at the heart of it is the fact that one of obama's enduring legacies when it comes to foreign policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the...
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al qaeda and an islamic jihadist extended the battlefield to the united states. in this war we're in, that's what makes it unique and different. is that the battlefield has extended to the united states. therefore, to me, a soldier in that war or an enemy combatant in that war is, in fact, an enemy combatant, not just an ordinary criminal if he's captured here, even if he's captured here in the united states. again i want to emphasize he would be getting a civilian trial and none of the evidence that's brought out in this interrogation could be used against him. it's solely for the purpose of intelligence. >> this issue of radicalization in the islamic community, does this mean anybody with radical views should be viewed as an enemy combatant as a threat? because there seems to be a fine line here. so he got radicalized. the brother got radicalized. but if there's no connection to some sort of organized terrorist organization, do you treat them as an enemy combatant and do you worry that then suddenly we're going to treat any potential radical, somebody who's got
al qaeda and an islamic jihadist extended the battlefield to the united states. in this war we're in, that's what makes it unique and different. is that the battlefield has extended to the united states. therefore, to me, a soldier in that war or an enemy combatant in that war is, in fact, an enemy combatant, not just an ordinary criminal if he's captured here, even if he's captured here in the united states. again i want to emphasize he would be getting a civilian trial and none of the...
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qaeda forums, they were saying this is a great idea. they were inviting other sort of lone wolves or wannabes to do the same kind of thing. and all day they were saying that the people of boston are terrorized, look at them cowering in their homes. and then instead we saw the people of boston come out onto the streets and thank the police officers, embrace themselves, not cowering but clapping. and that shows that this didn't succeed. that shows that people are willing to get up and go about their daily lives. >> so the actions of the people in watertown, massachusetts, a lot of them in flip-flops, shorts, and t-shirts on a street corner, will actually, that expression, they'll hear you overseas. that will actually be seen and heard overseas. >> the point of all of this is to terrorize people. that is the point of terrorism. there's a perception in this mindset that americans are weak, that we're a consumer society, that we're spoiled, that we're soft, and that the little chink in the armor and the whole system starts to collapse. that'
qaeda forums, they were saying this is a great idea. they were inviting other sort of lone wolves or wannabes to do the same kind of thing. and all day they were saying that the people of boston are terrorized, look at them cowering in their homes. and then instead we saw the people of boston come out onto the streets and thank the police officers, embrace themselves, not cowering but clapping. and that shows that this didn't succeed. that shows that people are willing to get up and go about...
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officials said he claims the instructions for making a bomb came from al qaeda's online magazine "inspire" which contained a formula similar to the one that the fbi says was similar to the bombs in boston. an employee at a fireworks company shows tamerlan tsarnaev bought four dozen large fireworks at a store in new hampshire in february. >> it was a little disturbing that i had an interaction with him. he was just an every-day customer. i dealt with him the same way i would deal with anybody off the street. >> reporter: several online instructions including the one in "inspire" recommended using the contents of fireworks as a component. 5,000 miles away, fbi agents were in the russian province of dagestan to interview the parents of the bombing suspects. the mother insists her sons could not be terrorists. >> what's happened is a terrible thing but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i'm mother. >> that was nbc's pete williams reporting. >>> charges against the mississippi man accused of sending ricin-laced letters to president obama and senator wicker has been dr
officials said he claims the instructions for making a bomb came from al qaeda's online magazine "inspire" which contained a formula similar to the one that the fbi says was similar to the bombs in boston. an employee at a fireworks company shows tamerlan tsarnaev bought four dozen large fireworks at a store in new hampshire in february. >> it was a little disturbing that i had an interaction with him. he was just an every-day customer. i dealt with him the same way i would deal...
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they called this the black banners after this particular prophesy that has been embraced by al qaeda. something that has been embraced by extremists and al qaeda and we found a number of websites and mother jones and others have located this you tube and posted under the name about four or five months ago. it's hard on the internet to verify whether that is indeed the person we are looking for and given the central asia connection and given the same name, it is certainly aing in s suggestive lead behind the ideology driving the two brothers. >> thank you very much, michael. the number one concern right now is to apprehend this suspect dead or alive and of course the safety and security of people in the boston area. having said that, there a lot of ongoing parts of this investigation. i would think that finding out if they had ties, finding out if they had philosophies could be very important to knowing whether that threat is limited to the people we know about right now. >> that's right, chris. this important information given by pete and mike, one thing that the commanders want to do
they called this the black banners after this particular prophesy that has been embraced by al qaeda. something that has been embraced by extremists and al qaeda and we found a number of websites and mother jones and others have located this you tube and posted under the name about four or five months ago. it's hard on the internet to verify whether that is indeed the person we are looking for and given the central asia connection and given the same name, it is certainly aing in s suggestive...
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project smooth, supposed al qaeda train froorists busted boarding a train between toronto and new york. 19-year-old joe dzhokhar tsarnaev remains in hospital, now charged with using a weapon of mass destruction. this as the city of boston tries to move on, holding a memorial for the third victim, boston university grad student liu ling zu. moments of silence were held around the country monday in boston. people gathered around the finish line to mark the time when the first bomb exploded. president obama also noted the time at the white house as did traders on the floor of the new york stock exchange. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams has the very latest. >> at 2:38 last monday afternoon, 11 minutes before the first bomb goes off the fbi says, a surveillance camera catches dzhokhar tsarnaev and tamerlan tsarnaev walking towards the finish line with backpacks, a second and crucial piece of video, the fbi says, comes from a surveillance camera mounted on this restaurant. at 2:42, court documents say the still unreleased video shows dzhokhar tsarnaev with a backpack walked towa
project smooth, supposed al qaeda train froorists busted boarding a train between toronto and new york. 19-year-old joe dzhokhar tsarnaev remains in hospital, now charged with using a weapon of mass destruction. this as the city of boston tries to move on, holding a memorial for the third victim, boston university grad student liu ling zu. moments of silence were held around the country monday in boston. people gathered around the finish line to mark the time when the first bomb exploded....
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learning how to build bombs with a few clicks to an online al qaeda magazine. now, if that's corroborated, it's the kind of threat authorities have long feared. lone actors, apparently self-trained, escaping scrutiny as they plot their deadly deeds. and as the intelligence community faces scrutiny over its handling of the case, nbc's pete williams has learned more about the timeline of contacts between russia and the united states. in early 2011, the russians contact the fbi requesting information about tamerlan tsarnaev, indicating he's becoming radical. the fbi opens a threat assessment, but finds no terrorism activity. they press the russians for more information. but the russians don't respond. in september 2011, the russians send the same request. this time to the cia. the cia checks with the fbi, sees that the matter has been examined with no results. the fbi again asks for more information. once again, russia does not respond. this is where the cia may have entered tamerlan into the so-called tides database. sending a ping if the subject travels. it shou
learning how to build bombs with a few clicks to an online al qaeda magazine. now, if that's corroborated, it's the kind of threat authorities have long feared. lone actors, apparently self-trained, escaping scrutiny as they plot their deadly deeds. and as the intelligence community faces scrutiny over its handling of the case, nbc's pete williams has learned more about the timeline of contacts between russia and the united states. in early 2011, the russians contact the fbi requesting...
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the same kind of terminology that is used by al qaeda sympathizers. same kind of stuff you find in these chat rooms. now, that's not illegal. you can believe that if you want. there's nothing wrong with just believing it. but if you're on a watch list and you have this ideology and suddenly you disappear in chechnya and dagestan for six months, that combination would probably you would think trip some wires. but evidently it didn't. >> richard engel, as always, a pleasure. thanks so much for seeing us. >> my pleasure. >> the mother of the bombing suspects is talking and saying that her sons were framed. she suggesting something remarkable about the fbi. her words next. pleasure. vo: from the classic lines to the elegant trim in each and every piece, bold will make your reality a dream. from capital one... boris earns unlimited rewards for his small business. can i get the smith contract, please? thank you. that's three new paper shredders. [ boris ] put 'em on my spark card. [ garth ] boris' small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase every da
the same kind of terminology that is used by al qaeda sympathizers. same kind of stuff you find in these chat rooms. now, that's not illegal. you can believe that if you want. there's nothing wrong with just believing it. but if you're on a watch list and you have this ideology and suddenly you disappear in chechnya and dagestan for six months, that combination would probably you would think trip some wires. but evidently it didn't. >> richard engel, as always, a pleasure. thanks so much...
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that's why al qaeda has now morphed and in many ways, al qaeda is more dangerous than it was prior to 9/11 because they've metastasized into mini groups and they also have supporters here in the u.s., some of whom they work with over the internet, others are self-radicalized. the times square bomber in 2010. the subway bomber in 2009. there was nothing on these people at all. yet they were involved in terrorist attacks. and any number of other people who have been stopped operating out of their basement, putting bombs together. yeah, it's a different level of threat. different type of threat. >> what's the line on security and freedom whether it comes to trying to secure americans from a lone wolf without disrupting their freedoms? >> yeah. listen, i don't -- my idea that the right to privacy is when you are in a private setting. if you're out in public, i don't believe you have the right to assume that anything is private. that's why i believe having these cameras on street corners the way they have in london, the way they have in lower manhattan in new york and they're working their
that's why al qaeda has now morphed and in many ways, al qaeda is more dangerous than it was prior to 9/11 because they've metastasized into mini groups and they also have supporters here in the u.s., some of whom they work with over the internet, others are self-radicalized. the times square bomber in 2010. the subway bomber in 2009. there was nothing on these people at all. yet they were involved in terrorist attacks. and any number of other people who have been stopped operating out of their...
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it's been used by al qaeda, but it's also been advertised in domestic extremist web sites. what is important the components could potentially be traced back to reports of a circuit board being included. something like that might be relatively distinctive and that could be a key piece for the fbi to trace back. where that came from, how it was purchased and how ultimately it got in that bomb. you combine that with video and photos we are talking about and that is where you see this start. you hope to break wider open. >> guys, the patriots day on monday started with the red sox game at 11:00 in the morning. they came back and they won in walkoff fashion. obviously, things turned terrible from there. the red sox were back on the field in cleveland last night. a moment of silence at progressive field there before the indians hosted the red sox. it was the sox first game since the marathon attacks. the game mike napoli hit a three-run double that helped the red sox win the game and hanging in the dugout a jersey with the word "boston strong." and number 617 for the zip code whe
it's been used by al qaeda, but it's also been advertised in domestic extremist web sites. what is important the components could potentially be traced back to reports of a circuit board being included. something like that might be relatively distinctive and that could be a key piece for the fbi to trace back. where that came from, how it was purchased and how ultimately it got in that bomb. you combine that with video and photos we are talking about and that is where you see this start. you...
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they had the ira a long time before al qaeda arrives. we need to do that too. we're not going to change our basic character. we're going to try to remain true, to essentially being the way we've always been. and i think that is a challenge, though, now. you feel the havoc growing across the global news cycles. and you say, look, for someone doing something leak this, you're trying to get in the mind of a bomber, maybe this is a victory. there's fear all over the unit. there's a question of where next? i think the next 24 to 48 hours will be important in terms of leadership, people in the law enforcement community as well as the political actors. let's take a deep breath. >> in terms of how we have evolved as a country, in terms of the way our leaders talk to us as the public, but when we are given instruction, reassurance and given response from our leaders, both in law enforcement, politically, is there a new consensus that it ought to be about resilience and it ought not be about revenge or some kind of acute response. has that changed? >> i think it has. the
they had the ira a long time before al qaeda arrives. we need to do that too. we're not going to change our basic character. we're going to try to remain true, to essentially being the way we've always been. and i think that is a challenge, though, now. you feel the havoc growing across the global news cycles. and you say, look, for someone doing something leak this, you're trying to get in the mind of a bomber, maybe this is a victory. there's fear all over the unit. there's a question of...
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this background checks for al qaeda members, background checks for violent offenders, it will pass. thank you, joe manchin. we greatly appreciate it. >> joining us from capitol hill republican senator from arizona, senator john mccain. senator, you and i don't always agree on everything. but i could hug you this morning. and democratic senator from new york. >> i wish i was there. >> and democrat senator from new york, chuck shumchumer. >> where is my hug? >> you always get one from me. i'm serious. senator mccain what made you decide to vote yes? >> well, i just thought that the bill was appropriate, that t the -- i've always been opposed to to the gun show loophole so i thought it was the right thing to do. >> can i ask you, senator mccain? this vote is probably going to come up again. joe manchin will be working democrats. you certainly have a lot of influence over kelly ayotte in new hampshire. would you encourage her if she could be the deciding vote to support background checks? >> i've never done that in the years i've been here. i talk to kelly. i talk to many of my other co
this background checks for al qaeda members, background checks for violent offenders, it will pass. thank you, joe manchin. we greatly appreciate it. >> joining us from capitol hill republican senator from arizona, senator john mccain. senator, you and i don't always agree on everything. but i could hug you this morning. and democratic senator from new york. >> i wish i was there. >> and democrat senator from new york, chuck shumchumer. >> where is my hug? >> you...
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qaeda. i think from an investigative point it doesn't matter all that much but this is obviously something they are trying to figure out. looking at the communications and other things, will help them understand that. >> the possibility that it is domestic but it's also a nonsense crime, a crime that has no discernable motive or none we care about looms as well. from director of any national terrorism center, thank you for being here. you're working long hours these days. >>> still ahead, gabby giffords chief of staff here for the interview and then the background on the massive explosion in texas. we have important background on that story ahead. les ve to the way they clean, once you try an oral-b deep sweep power brush, you'll never go back to a regular manual brush. its three cleaning zones with dynamic power bristles reach between teeth with more brush movements to remove up to 100% more plaque than a regular manual brush. and even 76% more plaque than sonicare flexcare in hard to reach
qaeda. i think from an investigative point it doesn't matter all that much but this is obviously something they are trying to figure out. looking at the communications and other things, will help them understand that. >> the possibility that it is domestic but it's also a nonsense crime, a crime that has no discernable motive or none we care about looms as well. from director of any national terrorism center, thank you for being here. you're working long hours these days. >>>...
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here's republican congressman louis goe mert of texas on wednesday. >> we know al qaeda has camps with the drug cartels on the other side of the mexican border, people are being trained to come in and act hispanic when they're radical islamists. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the immigration status of people who terrorized the communities in massachusetts when we find out it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. >> actually, senator, maybe the weakness is in trying to tie terrorism to immigration. at the table, msnbc contributor and georgetown university professor, michael dyson and ari melber. >> former south carolina gop chair katon dawson and za here ali. gang of 8 in the midst of all this, gang of 8 puts out the immigration report. marco rubio does a kind of here's the talking points from it. border control, border control is the fundamental thing that we hear coming out of what
here's republican congressman louis goe mert of texas on wednesday. >> we know al qaeda has camps with the drug cartels on the other side of the mexican border, people are being trained to come in and act hispanic when they're radical islamists. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the...
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they were just last month in the latest edition of the al qaeda online magazine "inspire." but they're all over the place. also putting shrapnel in them. ball bearings, nails. that's unfortunately very common, too. the explosive material that we believe was gun powder, smokeless powder. you look at this from a distance and you'd see, well, this is not a very cleverly made device. it's very common. but what the bomb technicians say is, yes, but, whoever built these managed to get them both to go off within 15 seconds of each other. and that suggests certainly some level of knowledge or -- or sophistication if you will. so they've taken all those pieces, chris. here's an interesting piece of data. the control tests have shown that after you blow up something like a pressure cooker bomb, the pieces are not consumed by the explosive. they're just made into thousands of pieces and spread all over the place. it is possible to recover 98%, 93% to 98% of them. that's why they've all been shipped here to the fbi crime lab, trying to keep them separate, which device they think is whi
they were just last month in the latest edition of the al qaeda online magazine "inspire." but they're all over the place. also putting shrapnel in them. ball bearings, nails. that's unfortunately very common, too. the explosive material that we believe was gun powder, smokeless powder. you look at this from a distance and you'd see, well, this is not a very cleverly made device. it's very common. but what the bomb technicians say is, yes, but, whoever built these managed to get them...
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the good news i think is that al-qaeda wanted the roughly 2.5 millions muslim americans to radicalize. they've largely failed. there was ft. hood, now, there's boston. but again, most muslim americans are sort of horrified by this. and the jihadist want us to blame muslims for the attacks. we've got to again use force, law enforcement against the extremists, the ones who fall for these crazy ideas. in the u.s. and in the region disagree with these guys. >> oh, sure. >> the book is "beyond war." absolutely fascinating. >> and read the book despite the fact that poor david has only one two pulitzer prizes. seriously? you can't do any better than that? when are you going o get to number three? sfwl my mother asked me the same question. >> see, your parents are as crazy as mine. you need to read this book. david, thank you so much for being here. >> come back on the show. are you just starting your book tour? >> yes. >> we'll see you again soon. coming up, alan alda will tell us what he's teaching, next on "morning joe." rahhhhhh! when i'm hungry, my tummy growls. rrrrrrrrrrrr! when i'm h
the good news i think is that al-qaeda wanted the roughly 2.5 millions muslim americans to radicalize. they've largely failed. there was ft. hood, now, there's boston. but again, most muslim americans are sort of horrified by this. and the jihadist want us to blame muslims for the attacks. we've got to again use force, law enforcement against the extremists, the ones who fall for these crazy ideas. in the u.s. and in the region disagree with these guys. >> oh, sure. >> the book is...
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qaeda in the arabian peninsula. even if that was the case, it wouldn't tell you if it was foreign or domestic. the point of the magazine was to tell everyone how to go do something. it could be someone linked to international terrorism or not. this is sort of the proliferation of some of these ideas, it certainly doesn't pinpoint any one specific thing. >> i also wanted to asked but a report, the bipartisan report on torture, came out yesterday, would have received a lot more attention if not for the often tragedy and investigation in boston. this is a bipartisan report co-authored by asa hutchinson who was in the bush administration, and came to this conclusion very reluctantly, he said, that torture was used, it was used not just in the waterboarding, it has not been acknowledged, and it was not productive. what is your take away from all of this? >> certainly as my colleagues scott shane reported yesterday, this is the most thorough look at the program, bipartisan look that we know of -- that we've seen so far. t
qaeda in the arabian peninsula. even if that was the case, it wouldn't tell you if it was foreign or domestic. the point of the magazine was to tell everyone how to go do something. it could be someone linked to international terrorism or not. this is sort of the proliferation of some of these ideas, it certainly doesn't pinpoint any one specific thing. >> i also wanted to asked but a report, the bipartisan report on torture, came out yesterday, would have received a lot more attention if...
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al qaeda is an enemy. but as i say, i don't know how they could possibly know that. there's an unfortunate tendency among some of the people in the business i used to be in that say something that wouldn't be sensible to say, you know, and some people want to be unhappy and angry and controversial. the law enforcement people did much better job than i expected. i certainly did not expect on monday as we tried to digest this terrible crime that they would have gotten the two guys responsible so quickly. it's part of the problem we have in america. can we take a moment to say isn't it good that it worked out this well, that combined law enforcement, federal, state, and local got together? instead there's this need to fight about things, some of which i say are not terribly significant. as far as the demand that he be treated as an enemy combatant. that's like, gee, let me get on television and put on a reflex that's a bit premature and also baseless. >> you look at the post-9/11 world and the things that changed in this country, some of them independently, some of them
al qaeda is an enemy. but as i say, i don't know how they could possibly know that. there's an unfortunate tendency among some of the people in the business i used to be in that say something that wouldn't be sensible to say, you know, and some people want to be unhappy and angry and controversial. the law enforcement people did much better job than i expected. i certainly did not expect on monday as we tried to digest this terrible crime that they would have gotten the two guys responsible so...